Phyllis Morton and Tamara Ramirez, two nurses who developed a continuing education course for nurses to overcome burnout, sit down with Dr. Mike Chupp and Pastor Bert Jones on this week’s CMDA Matters podcast.

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As a seasoned nurse, Phyllis Morton both enjoyed and endured many nursing experiences, such as working in a pediatric burn unit, a psychiatric unit and a school. She even did a couple of rigorous tours through head nursing and administration jumping over to office gynecology. She trained at the University of Missouri for both her BSN and MSN. She later trained as a spiritual director at SMU, which broadened her ability to walk beside people as they seek God and lead retreats, soul care groups and recovery groups.

A graduate of Azusa Pacific University, Tamara Ramirez worked as a hospice nurse for nearly two decades. After that, she worked for many years as a lay staff member in a local church, leading in the area of missions and outreach. She is a trained NAMI Family to Family teacher. She is also a trained spiritual director who partners with counselors in caring for the spiritual health of those who live with a mental illness.



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