The Christian Medical & Dental Associations (CMDA) has developed this policy on “medical marijuana” and “recreational marijuana” with both an inherent belief that the Bible is the Word of God—that it speaks into our time and culture and that God gave us his creation to use to its fullest potential—and with the incorporation of scientific evidence which provides a window into the truths about God’s creation.
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I’m in my early 60s. This means I have about 50 years of clear memories of news events, politics, fads and fashions, stemming from the early 70s. I even remember when JFK died, although I was just a little girl; the reactions of the adults around me were so remarkable that I still remember exactly where I was. In all of that time I will tell you what I have learned: God is the only One we can trust to tell us the truth and the only One who can give us peace.
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Behind the smile I was shouting, “Oh goodness mercy of course!” I have been the new girl showing up at the team meeting, the book club, the Bible study far, far more often than I have been the one standing with friends. It can be excruciatingly hard. It can also be invigorating.
Read MoreMy husband and I had just moved from Michigan to Texas for my first year of medical school at the University Health Science Center San Antonio. We walked up to the door of a house we had never visited, hand-in-hand wondering what the evening ahead would hold, with unfamiliar people, in this unfamiliar part of the country. As we arrived at the front door, we could hear the sounds of conversation mixed with laughter inside, along with the delicious aroma of cooking pizza tantalizing our taste buds. Another couple our age greeted us warmly while handing us an apron, sending us toward a buzzing kitchen to begin creating our “couple pizza” for the pizza bake-off contest! Wow! It was a Texas size welcome.
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Membership Donate Now Through CMDA’s Standards4Life, we offer you simple and succinct guides to help answer your biggest questions about healthcare issues. YOU can make the difference of life or death in issues such as abortion, stem cell research, and physician-assisted suicide by educating yourself and others. These guides are free for your use. You may incorporate the information into a Sunday school lesson, use…
Read MoreCMDA’s Dental Ministries is dedicated to encouraging and supporting dentists in living out their Christian faith in their professional and personal lives. We are an outreach that encourages and supports dental professionals and students as they strive to integrate their Christian faith into all aspects of their lives, while providing opportunities for training and equipping.
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She’s had two cancers and is free from both now. She moved to be near her daughter, but her daughter has rejected her. “I have to love her from a distance. She got a new job and bought a Range Rover. Now she acts like I never loved her. She don’t know that you can’t take nuthin’ but your good works with you when you die.”
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Blaise Pascal said, “I do not ask for health or sickness or life or death: I ask that you dispose of my health, sickness, my life, and death—for your glory, for my salvation, for the use of the church and the saints of which I am a part…Give to me, take away from me, but make my will conform to yours.”
Read MoreIt has been said that the best way to learn about our future is to look to our past. A historical reflection on the actions of those who have gone before us can both guide us toward monumental successes and deter us from repeating colossal mistakes. A glance to history may reveal progressive social and technological advancements, yet it also affirms that the basic principles of a man’s heart remain unchanged. As Proverbs reminds us, “There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death” (Proverbs 14:12).
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May 17-18, 2024
This course builds on the foundational skills in coaching taught in our 501 course to focus on expanding participants’ understanding of principles of change, transition and transformation. These concepts are then used to further develop participants’ coaching skills so they can help others be proactive in change, understand and leverage transitions for good and experience transformation at a deep level. Registration is open to all healthcare professionals, students, spouses and others who work with healthcare professionals.
When COVID-19 began sweeping around the globe in early 2020, career healthcare missionaries were faced with the option of staying in their countries of service to weather the storm or evacuating back to the United States before the borders closed. Without sufficient quantities of protective equipment for staff members, would rural mission hospitals be able to survive the pandemic? In countries where the medical infrastructure is limited at best, would there be enough resources? What about food and other supplies to help to meet the day-to-day needs if the airports closed?
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The hospital notified me today that one of the residents I supervise had more than 600 “view alerts” on her computer that had not been addressed. Alerts contain critical labs, radiology results or notes from other physicians who need a response.
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“For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes…” (Romans 1:16, NIV).
He sat across from me and had time to chat while I was ordering some complex treatment for him, a part-time pastor with theology as good as a ThD professor. We were talking about how much the world needs Jesus.
Read MoreBristol, Tenn.—June 24, 2022— The 16,000-member Christian Medical & Dental Associations (CMDA), which is the nation’s largest faith-based professional healthcare association, today praised the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in the landmark Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health case that strikes down the precedents set in both Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, effectively ending the constitutional right to abortion in the United States.
Read MoreBristol, Tenn.—August 24, 2022—The 13,000-member Christian Medical & Dental Associations (CMDA), which is the nation’s largest faith-based professional healthcare association, today praised the preliminary injunction from a federal court in Texas that protects the religious beliefs of healthcare professionals from being forced to perform abortions.
Read MoreBristol, Tenn.—August 29, 2022—The 13,000-member Christian Medical & Dental Associations (CMDA), which is the nation’s largest faith-based professional healthcare association, today praised the unanimous ruling from a federal appeals court in Texas that protects the religious beliefs of healthcare professionals from being forced to perform gender-transition procedures or abortions against their conscience and best medical judgment.
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Bristol, Tenn.—April 10, 2023—Christian Medical & Dental Associations (CMDA), which is the nation’s largest faith-based professional healthcare association, is praising the order issued last Friday by a federal district court in Texas that will halt the approval of dangerous chemical abortion drugs and protects the health, safety and welfare of women and girls.
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Assisting selected healthcare students in participating in their first Global Health Outreach short-term medical missions experience, enabling them to become familiar with the cultural, social, spiritual, medical and dental problems in developing countries while allowing them to serve the underserved.
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Grants for travel expenses for healthcare students (including nursing and allied health), trainees, and professionals serving in healthcare missions who are exploring and/or beginning medical service in East Asia with preference to those working with MSI Professional Services or OMF International.
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Dr. Robert and Marian Schindler Scholarship – Provides $1200 to help fund senior medical students, residents and/or fellows to teach on a short term mission trip with CMDA’s Medical Education International mission arm.
Read MoreDr. Autumn Dawn Galbreath explores what a variety of secular physicians have to say about praying with patients in the exam room. It’s a topic that is vastly important to Christian healthcare professionals. Not surprisingly, there was a wide range of options among secular physicians.
Read MoreAre you so busy at work that you struggle to spend time with your family? Perhaps you are feeling the pressure at work to see more and more patients. Or maybe you haven’t made it to church in months because you have too many responsibilities and now you just found out you’re being hit with a medical malpractice case. You’re on overload, life is spinning out of control and there doesn’t seem to be any hope or end in sight. Does this sound like you? If so, one thing is for certain. You are not alone.
Read MoreTo apply for consideration as a future Christian Medical & Dental Associations® Board of Trustees or House of Representatives candidate, please submit the Leadership Commitment Form and then the Leadership Self-referral Application as well. In addition, be prepared to submit a current Curriculum Vitae (CV) to the Executive Assistant at CMDA.
Read MoreHOME TRAINING EVENTS RESOURCES FAQs DONATE CONTACT US FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS What is the Difference Between Coaching and Other Helping Professions? When many people hear the word “coach,” they immediately think of a football or tennis coach. In those “coach” settings, the coach corrects a faulty swing or pattern of activity, setting goals for the athlete to strive to reach. But in a professional coaching…
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Read MoreCMDA collaborates with Christian Community Health Fellowship in providing healthcare for the poor in the United States. We initiated this strategic partnership to maximize our efforts by drawing from the strengths of each organization. For more than 30 years, CCHF has provided networking for students, medical professionals and people interested in Christian community development. The purpose of CCHF is to live out the gospel through healthcare among the poor. The organization was established to provide focus on the need and the “how to” in caring for the poor.
Read MoreAbout GHO Trips Find a Trip Trip Preparation Urgent Needs Resources Application Information Team Participant Manual Trip Preparation Mission Scholarships Additional Resources FAQs GHO Blog Contact FIND A TRIP TRIP PREPARATION Are you planning to go on a Global Health Outreach trip but do not know what to expect? These tips will give you a glimpse of what a week with a GHO team is…
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The Mission of the Neurology Section is to raise awareness among neurologists, neurology health professionals, neurology residents, fellows and medical students of the great need for neurological care—domestically and globally—and through their response to those needs, to share the gospel.
Read MoreFor more than 80 years, we have pursued one goal—to transform the lives of healthcare professionals so they can transform the world. Through more than 40 programs including campus and community ministries, medical missions, public policy and much more, CMDA continues to be a driving force in healthcare—enriching hundreds of thousands of lives each year.
Read MoreFor more than 80 years, we have pursued one goal—to transform the lives of healthcare professionals so they can transform the world. Through more than 40 programs including campus and community ministries, medical missions, public policy and much more, CMDA continues to be a driving force in healthcare—enriching hundreds of thousands of lives each year.
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CMDA Today is a full-color, quarterly magazine devoted to today’s issues in healthcare, including inspirational testimonies from fellow Christian healthcare professionals, public policy updates, glimpses into the future of healthcare and examples of how to integrate your faith into your practice.
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“Now I want you to know, brothers and sisters, that what has happened to me has actually served to advance the gospel” (Philippians 1:12, NIV).
He was beaten down by loneliness and a cancer that brought him pain, but he loves Jesus the Christ. When I asked him how he was doing on this visit, he said, “Not so well.” I was surprised at his continued response, unrelated to the issues above: “The main reason I’m not doing well is that I want to serve the Lord again, and I just can’t.” He was too weak and too displaced by his circumstances to have a solid foundation from which he could serve, and his heart was deeply committed.
Read MoreWe were doing a residency rotation in Florida when the triplets were four. One dreary overcast Saturday we were enjoying family time even though Wade was on call. We didn’t understand that in Florida rain can turn to sun in less than a minute. That day it did just that. And three four-year-olds began to wail. I couldn’t understand why the sun was making them cry. As I attempted to console them, I was asking why they were sobbing: “Daddy will have to go to work now.”
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It is a foggy morning at my house and I just filled my fourth garbage bag following the departure of my Christmas guests (full disclosure: my mom is still here after airline troubles delayed her flight by a week!) I am not ready to un-decorate yet as we love to savor the Christmas lights for a bit as we enter the new year. The deep sigh of tidying up is truly palpable — getting things back in their place somewhat and organized so that the new year can begin.
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It has been said that all the world is a stage, and the people are mere players. If that is true, then sometimes I feel like a supporting character in my own life. My husband’s career has been center-stage for so long, I can’t remember a time when our life didn’t somehow revolve around it. It determined where we lived, and how long. It determined when dinner was, and when we could go on vacation. It was the reason we moved away from home, and the reason we moved again, and again, and again. And I have been the one making sure all the endless “little things” got done along the way. I am pushing the plot of our lives along—but standing outside the spotlight.
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We all need advice, and from time to time we may even look for it. The question is, where should we seek it? The Internet? The Bible? Our pastor? A friend? A family member? Where can a Christian find godly advice?
Read MoreIn this article from the Spring 2019 edition of Today’s Christian Doctor, David Stevens, MD, MA (Ethics) shares when we follow our human nature, we are tempted by a desire to bunker down and protect ourselves from evil. The Bible tells us to flee this temptation, but just as importantly, we should also fight evil.
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Preparing to meet my next patient, I pick the next chart up off the counter. “Bob Smith,” married middle-aged patient, chief complaint: STD check. “Weird,” I think, “Mary Smith’s husband’s name is Bob, too. What a coincidence.” I open the exam room door, and Mary Smith’s husband, Bob Smith, is sitting inside.
Read MoreWe are now offering continuing education credits through Today’s Christian Doctor. Two hours of self-instruction are available.
Read MoreIn this article from the Spring 2019 edition of Today’s Christian Doctor, we feature Shelby Montgomery, a third year at LSU School of Medicine in New Orleans, Louisiana. She received my bachelor’s of science in kinesiology at LSU in Baton Rouge, spending her junior year of undergrad at the University of Hawaii at Manoa on the island of Oahu through National Student Exchange. After graduating from LSU, I worked for one year at Pennington Biomedical Research Center in Baton Rouge as a research coordinator for the Heads Up project.
Read MoreIt has been over a year since the first diagnosis of COVID-19 in the United States. Due to this pandemic’s effects, our society has experienced limitations in personal freedoms to a level we have never known. Social interactions and work environments have been changed by social distancing, masks, hospital and nursing home visitation restrictions and working from home. Freedom of movement about our communities and the nation has been limited by “stay-at-home orders” and mass travel restrictions. The availability of vaccines provides a sliver of hope but also raises many questions. Issues our society must address include prioritizing equitable vaccine distribution and the potential for coercive mandates on vaccine use.
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“Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed and so became the father of many nations…” (Romans 4:18, NIV).
“I got my hug!”
I had not seen her in a while. Her husband had been one of my dear friends with medical problems that complicated COVID and took his life last year.
“I was so blessed,” she said. “I was dreaming about him, just like when he was healthy. In that dream he gave me this wonderful hug.”
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I came to know Christ my first week in college at University of California, Davis (UC Davis). I wasn’t in a bad place or even seeking out spiritual fulfillment, but I was intrigued by my next-door dorm neighbor who was definitely high on something. It happened to be Jesus.
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How the spiritual needs of an academic-based group of physicians and scientists inspired the founding of the Christian Academic Physicians and Scientists (CAPS), a specialty section of CMDA.
Read MoreEvery five years, the CMDA Board of Trustees goes through a cycle of comprehensive strategic planning. This well-thought out process has guided and directed the organization throughout the last 25 years, as it focuses on better meeting the needs of our members and providing ministry to those we serve around the world.
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“Jesus answered, ‘I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me’” (John 14:6, NIV).
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“The fear of the Lord is pure, enduring forever” (Psalm 19:9a, NIV).
She has issues with chronic anxiety and depression, which are reasonable in her case, with a history of three different cancers and a family that rejected her. She is healthy today and was sharing with me her dependence on Jesus. “I just bring Him along with me. Sometimes I get so worried, and He comes in and just makes me feel warm and comfortable in spite of things.” She added, “Sometimes, though, I get too close to Him, and it scares me. I have to pull back.”
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“For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God” (1 Corinthians 1:18, NIV).
I’ve worked with him for years, through his aggressive cancer, allogeneic transplant, now doing well except for lung damage from the graft versus host disease. He always brings me homemade beef jerky that I hand off to those who love it. Today he had a special request: “I need a letter to go to the Philippines.” He had met a young lady online and had been online dating for four months, now planning to marry her there and bring her home to the U.S.
Read MoreI wish his statement was more true of me. One of our gospel’s major principles is that followers of Christ are called to give. It’s clear in the teachings of Jesus, “Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you” (Matthew 5:42, NIV).
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As a physician, I was not shocked at my dear friend’s death, but I was surprised by the way I discovered it. It was clearly unexpected when I walked into his room.
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September 5-8, 2024
Come join us for our 2024 conference in Branson, Missouri with the theme: “God Empowered-Beyond Your Wildest Dreams!” Open to all female healthcare professionals.
Bristol, Tenn.—June 16, 2022— The 16,000-member Christian Medical & Dental Associations (CMDA), which is the nation’s largest faith-based professional healthcare association, today protested President Biden’s newly announced Executive Order Advancing LGBTQI+ Equality because of its support for gender-affirming care and therapy bans, which completely disregards the full body of medical research and puts already at-risk youth at even greater risk.
Read MoreIf interested in serving with the Presbyterian Church USA, you can learn more at: https://tinyurl.com/ty7uhga
Read MoreTenwek is developing a Cardiothoracic Training Center and is recruiting a cardiologist. The ideal candidate would be highly experienced, board certified, skilled at echo (TEE a plus or could be trained), and peri-operative care, an energetic educator, and a devoted follower of Jesus. There is the opportunity to use or develop interventional skills (balloon mitral valvuloplasty, pacemaker insertion,) and support is provided by a broad network of North American cardiologists who visit Tenwek regularly. Two to four cardiologists could “job-share” this position if not filled by a single candidate. Tenwek is a 350 bed multi-specialty facility located in the beautiful highlands of Kenya. It has a comfortable climate and is nearby the Masai Mara reserve. For further information, please contact Ron Johannsen at ronandcolleenjohannsen@gmail.com.
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Family Medicine — FT/PT physician eager to serve God through the practice of family medicine is invited to join the New Creation Healing Center team in Kingston, New Hampshire, to heal the sick and share the gospel. Check out our website www.newcreationhc.org (click opportunities) for more information. For package details, contact Mary Pearson, DO, at 603-819-3204 or via email at drmarygrace@hotmail.com. We love God and we love people!
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We are in need of an optometrist or an ophthalmologist who can join us on our CMDA Global Health Outreach mission trip to the Dominican Republic on August 3-11, 2024. This is an excellent trip for students of all backgrounds, including healthcare students, college students and even high school students. It is also a great family trip for spouses and young people, as there will be opportunities for children’s ministries.
Read More“This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according
to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know
that we have what we asked of him.”
—1 John 5:14-15, NIV
Christian Medical & Dental Associations® educates, encourages, and equips Christian healthcare professionals to glorify God. Christian healthcare professionals glorify God by following Christ, serving with excellence and compassion, caring for all people, and advancing Biblical principles of healthcare within the Church and throughout the world.
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“And He said, ‘How can we illustrate the kingdom of God, or what parable can we use to describe it? It’s like a mustard seed that, when sown in the soil, is smaller than all the seeds on the ground’” (Mark 4:30-31, HCSB).
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We have no real power to change others. We can point them toward truth, we can pray for them and we can show them rational and emotional reasons to change; ultimately, any growth on their part must be motivated by their own desire and decision to change.
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When my husband and I worked at a mission hospital in Kenya for six weeks in 2013, we ate dinner every evening with another volunteer doctor, an orthopedic surgeon. We often discussed the use of opioids, or rather, the seldom-use of opioids in Kenya. After a U.S. surgery, he said his patients would receive opioids round the clock in the hospital, and they’d go home with a prescription for 30 to 60 pills. Yet here, patients’ pain was managed with non-opioid pain medications, and nobody was prescribed opioids after discharge.
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When you first begin considering the idea of volunteering, the simple thought might be overwhelming for a busy healthcare professional who’s trying to balance obligations at work, at home, at church, in the clinic, on campus and across a host of other areas. It’s no surprise that many of us in healthcare would steer far away from volunteering because there are just not enough hours in the day, not to mention enough margin in our schedules.
Read More“Rejoice always, pray without ceasing, give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you” (1 Thessalonians 5:16-18, ESV).
Read MoreOn October 31, 2022, the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) published an issue brief claiming pregnancy resource centers (PRCs) use various “tactics” such as “misleading information” and “emotional manipulation” to dissuade pregnant women from seeking life-affirming help.
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A few weeks ago, he had come to me discouraged that his physical debilitation had taken away his ability to serve the Lord. Today was different. He began to share as I was transcribing his prescriptions.
Read MoreMedical Education International is a short-term missions program that provides academic teaching and clinical training while spreading the gospel to doctors and students in hard to reach countries.
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Despite the Authority of Scripture, there are those who are confused on this issue and from that confusion (combined with political correctness) there are professionals guiding individuals through the process of hormonal treatment (as normal) and very tragically, even surgical interventions.
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André Van Mol, MD is a board-certified family physician in private practice. He serves on the boards of Bethel Church of Redding and Moral Revolution (moralrevolution.com), and is the co-chair of the American College of Pediatrician’s Committee on Adolescent Sexuality.
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“As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work” (John 9:4, NIV).
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We can’t always hide from the huge cruelty of life. It’s always there, mixed in with the great wonder and joy of life—a brokenness seeping up up from the soil of our fallen world.
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MedSend awards grants to repay student loans owed by healthcare professionals while they serve as healthcare missionaries in medically underserved areas of the world. Three times each year, the MedSend board reviews completed applications for healthcare professionals headed for career missionary service.
Read MorePerspectives and Opinions on Issues and News Topics is a publication of Christian Medical & Dental Associations®. Do you want to know the latest information and news about today’s important healthcare topics? Join the conversation with The Point, CMDA’s blog focusing on breaking news stories in bioethics and healthcare. CMDA’s experts contribute to the blog and also recommend additional resources and information.
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Read MoreCMDA’s Dental Ministries is dedicated to encouraging and supporting dentists in living out their Christian faith in their professional and personal lives. We are an outreach that encourages and supports dental professionals and students as they strive to integrate their Christian faith into all aspects of their lives, while providing opportunities for training and equipping.
Read MoreBeing a member of CMDA has lots of great benefits, but the greatest benefit of all is helping to further His kingdom as we change hearts in healthcare. If you aren’t a member of CMDA, we would love to have you join us!
Read MoreChristian Medical & Dental Associations® has several blogs available with articles dating back several years on a wide range of healthcare topics and issues.
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Christian Physical Rehab Professionals (CPRP) is a specialty section of CMDA. We are here to encourage, support and build up Christian Physical Rehab Professionals CPRP spiritually and professionally. We’d love to share more about our purpose, beliefs and what we offer.
Read MoreWomen Physicians & Dentists in Christ is an outreach ministry to provide resources for Christian women physicians and dentists to integrate their personal, professional and spiritual lives.
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The CMDA Go App Pray For CMDA If you would like to pray for CMDA, please go to the CMDA Go App, CMDA National Ministry Prayer Forum, and view the existing weekly prayer requests. Then you can leave a comment on each post as you are praying. Here are the current features you can use right away: Set up your personal profile with your CMDA account…
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Fall 2024
You’re invited to boost your communication skills, so needed in these challenging times in healthcare. This online, six-week, highly interactive coaching training course will equip you to lead more effectively, assist colleagues with burnout, improve patient health outcomes and maximize the potential in others. Registration is open to all healthcare professionals, students, spouses and others who work with healthcare professionals.
“The eternal God is your refuge, and underneath are the everlasting arms” (Deuteronomy 33:27a, NKJV).
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“Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters” (Colossians 3:23, NIV).
Read MoreFranklin Graham, my boss, and I had just finished a meeting in the early 1990s when I walked into my office at World Medical Missions and found a letter marked “Personal and Confidential” on my desk from the Christian Medical & Dental Society (CMDS, as the ministry was called at that time). As I opened it, little did I realize it was the first step in a journey that would result in me leading CMDA for 25 years.
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Letter to the Editor of CHEST (American College of Chest Physicians) opposing physician-assisted suicide in response to article by Attorney Kathryn Tucker’s article pushing physicians to help patients dye.
Read MoreAs a second year medical student, a member of my medical school class committed suicide. I didn’t know him well, but his death impacted me. Made me ask a lot of questions. Why didn’t I know him better? Had I gotten to know him, could I have made a difference?
Read MoreAs Christians in healthcare, we are called to take our faith into the workplace, whether it be in a clinic, in a hospital or in academia. My journey in medicine led me from the clinic into academia. I actually consider myself an accidental academician who never meant to end up in charge of training a portion of the physician assistant workforce. This, however, is exactly why I am writing this story, to encourage my colleagues and help them understand who the sheep are, why they need feeding, how to feed them and when to stop feeding them.
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“Religious groups need not apply.” That is how the University of Iowa has interpreted and applied its paradoxically named “Human Rights Policy” since 2017. That Policy is why the University is now subject to four injunctions that it has brazenly ignored.
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This case addresses the constitutionality of abortion facility safety regulations. It is essential, therefore, that this Court understand that abortion, as currently practiced in the United States (and other developed nations), is often the occasion of medical mishaps, even serious injuries and deaths.
Read MoreHe spoke of the Lord often as we addressed his malignancy, acknowledging Jesus as the one he trusted with his health. But somehow, he sidetracked us into a conversation about his sexual exploits in ways that were natural to him but too graphic for me. I was somewhat perplexed by these two lines of conversation that seemed a bit oxymoronic.
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